YTSEJAM digest 6489

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Date: Thu Mar 13 2003 - 20:01:45 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) MIME Header Stuff
     by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
      2) 67/64
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
      3) DT album 4 discs
     by "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
      4) RE: DT album 4 discs
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
      5) Re: 67/64
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      6) Evergrey
     by "Andrew Sprague" <Andrew_Sprague@biogen.com>
      7) Re: Evergrey
     by "Kez" <bkeyser@fireguardcorp.com>
      8) RE: DT album 4 discs
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
      9) Re: Evergrey
     by Christin Cooney <ccooney@comcast.net>
     10) new to ytsejam
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
     11) RE: new to ytsejam
     by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@generalcable.com>
     12) RE: DT album 4 discs
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
     13) Re: new to ytsejam
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     14) RE: new to ytsejam
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
     15) Re: new to ytsejam
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com

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    Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:33:33 -0500
    From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: MIME Header Stuff
    Message-ID: <1047522812.2402.1.camel@codewarrior.stigmata.org>

    > From: Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>
    > Mike, which mail client do you use? It's broken. It's generating MIME
    > content without the right MIME headers. :-/

    Actuallllly, its the spam filter killing off all the MIME content :) I
    should look to see if I can make that a LITTLE cleaner.

    Skadz 

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    Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:36:05 -0800
From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 67/64
Message-ID: <001e01c2e922$71850ca0$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>

    >i personally heard from petrucci who had dinner at my house the other 
night
>that the new DT album will be 3 discs, each containing a 78 minute 
song. One
>disc will be purely instrumental, containing riffs in, quote, "the most
>random time signatures possible".... he hinted at 67/64 and 27/16.

    Yeah right, but if you DO want a new cd like that it is the new one from
Ron Jarzombek(Watchtower, Spastic Ink) called "Solitary Speaking of 
Theoretical
Confinement". It is 45 short tracks of really sick insane stuff like 
weird time sigs
and/or odd scales, etc. It blows me away and I don't even play 
guitar........
Trevor
http://www.spasticink.com/ssotc.html
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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:03:19 +0100
From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT album 4 discs
Message-ID: <053401c2e92e$a11b8d20$3cff9f0a@pc0099>

    > I'm beginning to think you're not serious!

    OK, you guys want the real info ??

    After the mail dropped in I rang JM.
After 20 minutes I got a "hi" out of him and the confirmation thats it's 4
disks long ;)

    So after that I decided to ring MP.
He wanted to keep the secret ;)

    So finally I rang JP.
So it'll be 4 discs long.
With 3 discs as CD's just as Mike (Shetzer) said.
The last disc is a musical DVD with a 400 minute drum solo ;)

    Satisfied ?
    ACBLF

    PS : I just hope it'll be another master piece.
    I know there's no reason to be afraid but every time they're in studio I
am.
    During the 6DOIT wait, I was happy to get my hands on TGP so as to relax
a little :)
    I guess the unknown frightens us all.

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:01:21 +1100
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT album 4 discs
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMOEAHCOAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    >     During the 6DOIT wait, I was happy to get my hands on TGP so
> as to relax
> a little :)
>     I guess the unknown frightens us all.

    I don't know whether I'd get my hands on demos again before the album was
released. I listened to the Blind Faith and Misunderstood edits before the
release, as well as watching all the making of videos.. but by the time I
listened to the album, I knew too much of it.

    Blind Faith is still my killer track of 6DOIT... I think it's just a step
above everything else..

    Niall

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:03:06 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: 67/64
Message-ID: <001b01c2e958$823aca40$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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    That might actually be due to me... I posted news on the jam regarding that CD back in january when it first came out. Ron's a great guy, we exchanged emails a few times and is quite down to earth. I bet his great CD sold like 10 copies so far =D
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TREVOR HOIT 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:39 AM
  Subject: 67/64

      >i personally heard from petrucci who had dinner at my house the other 
  night
  >that the new DT album will be 3 discs, each containing a 78 minute 
  song. One
  >disc will be purely instrumental, containing riffs in, quote, "the most
  >random time signatures possible".... he hinted at 67/64 and 27/16.

      Yeah right, but if you DO want a new cd like that it is the new one from
  Ron Jarzombek(Watchtower, Spastic Ink) called "Solitary Speaking of 
  Theoretical
  Confinement". It is 45 short tracks of really sick insane stuff like 
  weird time sigs
  and/or odd scales, etc. It blows me away and I don't even play 
  guitar........
  Trevor
  http://www.spasticink.com/ssotc.html
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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:46:57 -0500
From: "Andrew Sprague" <Andrew_Sprague@biogen.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Evergrey
Message-ID: <OFBE7E1FBC.E4A0A9EB-ON85256CE8.0050E82B@biogen.com>

    I picked up Everygreys new CD yesterday, after 1.5 listens I can tell
already that I am going to keep this disc around for a while. I will need
to read the lyrics since other reviews that I have read make the music
sound a lot deeper than what I heard on my first listen. In fact, some of
the music reminded me of Whitesnake (don't flame me please!) and early DT.
The singers voice is great and the musical ability of the band seems top
notch. I'll post a better review after I have the songs solidified in my
crazy head. Any other opinions out there? Anyone have their previous CDs?
Which of them are worth getting next?

    ______

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:37:28 -0500
From: "Kez" <bkeyser@fireguardcorp.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Evergrey
Message-ID: <003701c2e976$76847480$6401a8c0@kezp3800>

    Please buy In Search of Truth as soon as possible.  It's their last release
prior to Recreation Day, and it's a concept piece about alien abduction.
It's a must own, in my opinion.

    I should receive my copy of Recreation Day today, but I can tell you from
what I heard of it back in November at ProgPower 3(two full listens, one
with Tom Englund(lead singer) at my side/behind me), I like this one even
more.  I'm not sure about the Whitesnake reference, but I also heard shades
of DT influence in spots, particularly in Tom's vocal lines and harmonies.
I'm dying to hear it all again.

    That's all for now.
Kez

    ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Sprague" <Andrew_Sprague@biogen.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:14 AM
Subject: Evergrey

    >
> I picked up Everygreys new CD yesterday, after 1.5 listens I can tell
> already that I am going to keep this disc around for a while. I will need
> to read the lyrics since other reviews that I have read make the music
> sound a lot deeper than what I heard on my first listen. In fact, some of
> the music reminded me of Whitesnake (don't flame me please!) and early DT.
> The singers voice is great and the musical ability of the band seems top
> notch. I'll post a better review after I have the songs solidified in my
> crazy head. Any other opinions out there? Anyone have their previous CDs?
> Which of them are worth getting next?
>
>
> ______
>
>

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:03:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT album 4 discs
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0303131758120.28970-100000@norge.freeshell.org>

    On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Niall Connaughton wrote:

    > I don't know whether I'd get my hands on demos again before the album was
> released. I listened to the Blind Faith and Misunderstood edits before the
> release, as well as watching all the making of videos.. but by the time I
> listened to the album, I knew too much of it.
>
> Blind Faith is still my killer track of 6DOIT... I think it's just a step
> above everything else..

    niall, i'll jump on that bandwagon.  blind faith is probably my fav from
the 6DOIT set as well.  something about the way it builds, plus the
instrumental section is absolute genius, IMHO.

    speaking of the "making of" vids that were on the site before the release
of 6DOIT, does anyone have those saved on their `puter??  any chance of
posting them online temporarily to share with those of us that weren't
fortunate enough to be able to view them before??  it would be much
appreciated, believe me.  lemme know.

    					-eric

    -- 
"The least important things in life
    get the most appreciation.
 The most important things in life
    don't seem to get enough."

    			-me

    Proud "Trillian" user
     http://www.ceruleanstudios.com
AIM screename: Ryften13
drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email)
schnerck@hotmail.com  -or-
peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email)
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Progressive Musician's Forum -
     http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:14:46 -0500
From: Christin Cooney <ccooney@comcast.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Evergrey
Message-ID: <3121f8312fa8.312fa83121f8@icomcast.net>

    ----- Original Message -----
From: Kez <bkeyser@fireguardcorp.com>
Date: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:48 am
Subject: Re: Evergrey

    > Please buy In Search of Truth as soon as possible.  It's their 
> last release
> prior to Recreation Day, and it's a concept piece about alien 
> abduction.It's a must own, in my opinion.

         I agree completely.  And I would also recommend Solitude, 
Dominance, Tragedy, the release before In Search of Truth.  Evergrey is 
a very solid band.  I haven't heard their debut album yet though.

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:33:53 EST
From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: new to ytsejam
Message-ID: <ac.3ba9fdbb.2ba24531@aol.com>

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    i subscribed to the mailing list the other day, so forgive me for not being 
up to date.
from what i've read, it seems as though the next dt album will be a couple of 
very long songs. i must admit that i am a little disappointed, but not very 
surprised. i was hoping for less epic sagas and more 6-12 minute songs.
but, as i said in the mirror, they could do a cover of a carpenters album and 
i would buy it.
off the dt subject: i just bought a copy of the spocks beard dvd "don't try 
this at home". 300 minutes of good stuff on 2 discs plus a cd. money well 
spent.
jacko

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:59:28 -0500
From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@generalcable.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: new to ytsejam
Message-ID: <C2585FD5E8EF8E45B8C1EE08C4BF1BEE018F9D2C@hqexs20>

    	Any information that has been posted about the next album is either
jokes or wild speculation.  They just went in to the studio on March 10, and
are writing and recording in the studio, so, likely, even the band doesn't
know what the album is going to end up being.

    Jason

    -----Original Message-----
From: Kgahjah1@aol.com [mailto:Kgahjah1@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:53 PM

    i subscribed to the mailing list the other day, so forgive me for not being 
up to date.
from what i've read, it seems as though the next dt album will be a couple
of 
very long songs. i must admit that i am a little disappointed, but not very 
surprised. i was hoping for less epic sagas and more 6-12 minute songs.
but, as i said in the mirror, they could do a cover of a carpenters album
and 
i would buy it.
off the dt subject: i just bought a copy of the spocks beard dvd "don't try 
this at home". 300 minutes of good stuff on 2 discs plus a cd. money well 
spent.
jacko

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    Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:13:29 +1100
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT album 4 discs
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMKEALCOAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    I still have all the videos (including the original of Blind Faith with the
upside down lyrics, etc... don't ask me why :P)... I don't know if I have a
place to put them. I get a whopping 10 meg of space from my ISP, and I think
it gets me into shit if it gets hammered too hard. If you're on ytsejamDC, I
have joined that (though not logged in yet), or I could post to a newsgroup,
which would let everyone grab them without hammerring my connection (yay,
3GB cap).

    > -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
> Eric George
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 5:23 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: DT album 4 discs
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Niall Connaughton wrote:
>
> > I don't know whether I'd get my hands on demos again before the
> album was
> > released. I listened to the Blind Faith and Misunderstood edits
> before the
> > release, as well as watching all the making of videos.. but by
> the time I
> > listened to the album, I knew too much of it.
> >
> > Blind Faith is still my killer track of 6DOIT... I think it's
> just a step
> > above everything else..
>
> niall, i'll jump on that bandwagon.  blind faith is probably my fav from
> the 6DOIT set as well.  something about the way it builds, plus the
> instrumental section is absolute genius, IMHO.
>
> speaking of the "making of" vids that were on the site before the release
> of 6DOIT, does anyone have those saved on their `puter??  any chance of
> posting them online temporarily to share with those of us that weren't
> fortunate enough to be able to view them before??  it would be much
> appreciated, believe me.  lemme know.
>
> 					-eric
>
> --
> "The least important things in life
>     get the most appreciation.
>  The most important things in life
>     don't seem to get enough."
>
> 			-me
>
> Proud "Trillian" user
>      http://www.ceruleanstudios.com
> AIM screename: Ryften13
> drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email)
> schnerck@hotmail.com  -or-
> peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email)
> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
> Progressive Musician's Forum -
>      http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general
>

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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:04:20 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: new to ytsejam
Message-ID: <004e01c2e9b4$e17c25b0$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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    Yeah, double that. I was just being a kidder everyone... ppl should learn not to take everyone seriously. 
I did have petrucci for dinner though!

    *warning*
quiet bs-o-meter! they might hear you~!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Herbert, Jason 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:25 PM
  Subject: RE: new to ytsejam

      Any information that has been posted about the next album is either
  jokes or wild speculation.  They just went in to the studio on March 10, and
  are writing and recording in the studio, so, likely, even the band doesn't
  know what the album is going to end up being.

      Jason

      -----Original Message-----
  From: Kgahjah1@aol.com [mailto:Kgahjah1@aol.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:53 PM

      i subscribed to the mailing list the other day, so forgive me for not being 
  up to date.
  from what i've read, it seems as though the next dt album will be a couple
  of 
  very long songs. i must admit that i am a little disappointed, but not very 
  surprised. i was hoping for less epic sagas and more 6-12 minute songs.
  but, as i said in the mirror, they could do a cover of a carpenters album
  and 
  i would buy it.
  off the dt subject: i just bought a copy of the spocks beard dvd "don't try 
  this at home". 300 minutes of good stuff on 2 discs plus a cd. money well 
  spent.
  jacko

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    Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:04:56 +1100
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: new to ytsejam
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMGEANCOAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    You had Petrucci for dinner??

    How does he taste?

    > -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
> Mike Shetzer
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 10:27 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: new to ytsejam
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Yeah, double that. I was just being a kidder everyone... ppl 
> should learn not to take everyone seriously. 
> I did have petrucci for dinner though!
> 
> *warning*
> quiet bs-o-meter! they might hear you~!
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Herbert, Jason 
>   To: Multiple recipients of list 
>   Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:25 PM
>   Subject: RE: new to ytsejam
> 
> 
>   Any information that has been posted about the next album is either
>   jokes or wild speculation.  They just went in to the studio on 
> March 10, and
>   are writing and recording in the studio, so, likely, even the 
> band doesn't
>   know what the album is going to end up being.
> 
>   Jason
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Kgahjah1@aol.com [mailto:Kgahjah1@aol.com]
>   Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:53 PM
> 
>   i subscribed to the mailing list the other day, so forgive me 
> for not being 
>   up to date.
>   from what i've read, it seems as though the next dt album will 
> be a couple
>   of 
>   very long songs. i must admit that i am a little disappointed, 
> but not very 
>   surprised. i was hoping for less epic sagas and more 6-12 minute songs.
>   but, as i said in the mirror, they could do a cover of a 
> carpenters album
>   and 
>   i would buy it.
>   off the dt subject: i just bought a copy of the spocks beard 
> dvd "don't try 
>   this at home". 300 minutes of good stuff on 2 discs plus a cd. 
> money well 
>   spent.
>   jacko
> 
> 
> 
> 
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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:25:43 EST
From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: new to ytsejam
Message-ID: <1ab.12118043.2ba27b87@aol.com>

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    ok, the new guy fell for it. ha, ha. except it really is funny.
jacko

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