YTSEJAM digest 6500

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 21:38:26 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Uh Oh, I just spent some money
     by stan tyszka <soculese@bellatlantic.net>
      2) War & OSI
     by MaxArbot@aol.com
      3) OSI
     by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
      4) And in other news....Happy Birthday Dark Side Of The Moon!
     by Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
      5) to live forever?
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
      6) Re: Politics and War...BAH!
     by Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
      7) Re: War & OSI
     by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
      8) RE: Sound good??
     by "Karyn Hamilton" <littlewenda@hotmail.com>
      9) RE: to live forever?
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     10) RE: Uh Oh, I just spent some money
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     11) immigrants?
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
     12) Re: Sound good??
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     13) Re: OSI
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
     14) Re: immigrants?
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com

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    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:54:17 -0500
    From: stan tyszka <soculese@bellatlantic.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Uh Oh, I just spent some money
    Message-ID: <11B05554-5E6D-11D7-93FE-000393C6BDE2@bellatlantic.net>

    Just bought an iPod. Anyone else have one?? I have been eyeing it up
    for a few months now, and just decided that, well, I need one. Can't
    wait, 10 gig of Music (Wonder if I could fill it with DT?) at my finger
    tips, just 2 days away!!!

    Stan

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    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:15:12 EST
    From: MaxArbot@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: War & OSI
    Message-ID: <ac.3c80de65.2bb123c0@aol.com>

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    I'm sorry I started all of this (yes, it was me), but this mailing list
    hasn't exactly been super-talkative about DT in the past few weeks. It SEEMS
    TO ME that the war rhetoric actually jump-started discussion here. And, while
    I do recognize this isn't exactly the place for war chat, this IS a great
    place to meet people from all over the world and to get their opinions on
    this global issue.

    There are too many folks on this list that continue to bitch at people for
    discussing the war, yet they contribute nothing in the way of discussing DT
    or progressive rock. Whatever. The point is some things are more important
    than DT...if only at certain times (this, coming from someone who has an
    Ytsejam tattooed on his back). I feel like Pandora for bringing up the war
    here, but I'm one of those damned opinionated Americans. I couldn't help it.

    Anyway...I really love OSI, and I was too bogged down by the flames to get a
    qualitative answer to a question I asked a while back. What (real)
    recommendations does anyone have for people who really love OSI?

    [eriC]
    <A HREF="http://metzae.net/">http://metzae.net/>

    p.s. Anyone else get the feeling that the US has it's own OSI?

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    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:32:50 -0800 (PST)
    From: rob denni <
    drummerdream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: OSI
    Message-ID: <20030325033250.58559.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com>

    I haven't heard any rumors about Mike not liking the
    sound of OSI, but the interviews he has given on the
    subject lead me to believe that he wasn't happy with
    how it came out. And while I'm here, I'll mention
    that I didn't like the album, but I listened to the
    second disc, and like that better. Set your controls
    is a great tune and they covered it well. Also like
    the 20 minute instrumental. I wish the whole album
    was like that.

    ====
    Rob Denni
    EUSA Band
    PSC 303, Box 6
    APO, AP 96204-0006
    Go visit my website! http://home.talkcity.com/HeadbangersHwy/funkygroove/

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    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:44:04 -0800 (PST)
    From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: And in other news....Happy Birthday Dark Side Of The Moon!
    Message-ID: <20030325044404.72026.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com>

    On March 24th, 1973, Pink Floyd released Dark Side of
    the Moon. Happy 30th birthday DSOTM!

    Jon.
    mau-tze@erols.com

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    Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:02:46 -0800 (PST)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: to live forever?
    Message-ID: <20030325060246.13826.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

    >I have been on the Jam for a long time, since near
    the
    >beginning. I don't post much, but love to read the
    >posts about OFB, but I am this -> <- close to
    >unsubscribing til the war is over unless all these
    >useless, off-topic posts stop.
    >I read the jam, and listen to DT to get AWAY from
    this
    >crap! Can we drop it and get back to what this list
    is
    >about, or should I just unsub?

    you've stayed on the jam throughout its flame-baited
    history, and approximately 10-15 posts on the current
    war have put you near the edge? Man, all I can say
    is.....you've mellowed dude.....whatever happened to
    the guy that toughed out George Faber and the raging
    old vs new ACoS debates? and who could ever forget
    sloppyjoe69, or the debates inspired by Arash(onmyass)
    endlessly flogging Empty Tremor?

    give this man a new teflon (or should that be
    asbestos?) coat....

    partha

    (that said, here's another call for canning that talk
    on this particular forum....I may well agree with your
    view, but that doesn't mean I want to read it :)

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:30:51 +0100
    From: Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Politics and War...BAH!
    Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325075242.009e49b0@pop3.netcologne.de>

    James <imroadie@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >I read the jam, and listen to DT to get AWAY from this crap!

    And young children close *their* eyes and say *you* can't see me.

    "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> wrote:
    >...
    > However, after the exchange rate, that comes down to:
    > 1 Canoe
    > 2 Mounties
    > 1 Flying Squirrel

    Let's wait and see how the exchange rate develops after the US has ruined
    its own economy.

    "Joseph Smith" <tptblo@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >Damn, sometimes I wish the US would just close it's borders tight, stop all
    >imports and exports, stop giving money to anyone else in the world and say,
    >"Bye, good luck!" to everyone else. Wonder what the world would look like
    >then?

    I don't know what the world would be like, but the US you probably could
    think of as something like during the aera of the Monroe doctrine. Well, if
    that's what you want, likewise "Bye, good luck!".

    >If we had done that during WWII, many if not all of you would be speaking
    >German and the rest of you would probably be dead.

    Even the USSR was one of the monsters *you* (as obviously **you** identify
    with "your" country) created to use them first as allies and then... there
    would have been no Warszaw pact, not to speak of that realexisting
    socialism surely hadn't survived until the late 1980s. The Nazis didn't
    even have only a tiny fraction of this potential (nevertheless thanks for
    eliminating them before they could cause further damage).

    >Before bashing the US gov't, find out how much aid our gov't. gives yours,
    >how many of you immigrants are prospering here now and the many other ways
    >"that damn US gov't." has helped your country.

    As companies are operating internationally your suggestion would be a
    self-mutilation of US economy. If you want the US to become a regime like
    North Korea, thinking they were right, but unrecognized and defamed by the
    rest of the world, dream on.

    And should you have thought of help as in rescuing Canada from not getting
    invaded by the USSR (as recently has been put forth as part of the
    US-Canadian polemics), despite the fact this wouldn't have happened anyway,
    think about how great the US interest must have been in not having another
    Iron Curtain as its northern border.

    >Some of you make me sick!

    Yeah, imperialist assholes like you me, too! I always had cultivated the
    clichi bushies were listening to country or some such kitschy crap, not DT...

    Heike

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:25:52 -0800
    From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: War & OSI
    Message-ID: <20030325002552.A13478@zero.corp.publichost.com>

    > I'm sorry I started all of this (yes, it was me), but this mailing list
    > hasn't exactly been super-talkative about DT in the past few weeks. It SEEMS
    > TO ME that the war rhetoric actually jump-started discussion here. And, while
    > I do recognize this isn't exactly the place for war chat, this IS a great
    > place to meet people from all over the world and to get their opinions on
    > this global issue.

    That is fine, but you can always start a war mailing list if you want
    to really talk about war.

    >
    > There are too many folks on this list that continue to bitch at people for
    > discussing the war, yet they contribute nothing in the way of discussing DT
    > or progressive rock. Whatever. The point is some things are more important
    > than DT...if only at certain times (this, coming from someone who has an
    > Ytsejam tattooed on his back). I feel like Pandora for bringing up the war
    > here, but I'm one of those damned opinionated Americans. I couldn't help it.

    That's no justification to talk about war on this list, the rules are the rules.
    Opinionated or not, you have to find the right forum to discuss things.

    > Anyway...I really love OSI, and I was too bogged down by the flames to get a
    > qualitative answer to a question I asked a while back. What (real)
    > recommendations does anyone have for people who really love OSI?

    -The Doc

    -- 
    --------------
    http://www.zeromemory.com - metal for your ears.
    

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:22:26 +1000 From: "Karyn Hamilton" <littlewenda@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: Sound good?? Message-ID: <BAY2-F33LZCHusMjQHt0000be7a@hotmail.com>

    >Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:18:29 +1100 >From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> >Subject: RE: Sound good??

    <snip>

    >Your very own war flame list is but a click to yahoo groups away.

    Word...I couldn't have said it better myself.

    >Now for something worthwhile. > >Are there any aussies that are going to be at the Opeth concert in Sydney? >I know Karyn is coming :P

    Indeed I am. I also have a *cough* early copy of Damnation which I'll put in a plug for, I'm impressed with their latest offering :-) Being as I am of the ilk which prefers the clean-vocalled Opeth, Damnation is very much to my taste. I'm looking forward to the show :-)

    -- Karyn

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:08:12 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: to live forever? Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438D995A2@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>

    Yeah man, the old Michael Coghlan religious battles were worse than these few war posts.....

    -----Original Message----- From: Partha Mukhopadhyay [mailto:ahtrap@yahoo.com]

    >I have been on the Jam for a long time, since near the >beginning. I don't post much, but love to read the >posts about OFB, but I am this -> <- close to >unsubscribing til the war is over unless all these >useless, off-topic posts stop. >I read the jam, and listen to DT to get AWAY from this >crap! Can we drop it and get back to what this list is >about, or should I just unsub?

    you've stayed on the jam throughout its flame-baited history, and approximately 10-15 posts on the current war have put you near the edge? Man, all I can say is.....you've mellowed dude.....whatever happened to the guy that toughed out George Faber and the raging old vs new ACoS debates? and who could ever forget sloppyjoe69, or the debates inspired by Arash(onmyass) endlessly flogging Empty Tremor?

    give this man a new teflon (or should that be asbestos?) coat....

    partha

    (that said, here's another call for canning that talk on this particular forum....I may well agree with your view, but that doesn't mean I want to read it :)

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:09:39 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> Subject: RE: Uh Oh, I just spent some money Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438D995FC@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>

    Fill it with Dream Theater, Symphony X, Silent Voices, Enchant, Superior, etc :)

    JM

    -----Original Message----- From: stan tyszka

    Just bought an iPod. Anyone else have one?? I have been eyeing it up for a few months now, and just decided that, well, I need one. Can't wait, 10 gig of Music (Wonder if I could fill it with DT?) at my finger tips, just 2 days away!!!

    Stan

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:39:49 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: immigrants? Message-ID: <004d01c2f2fd$eb0339a0$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>

    >From: "Joseph Smith" <tptblo@hotmail.com> >Before bashing the US gov't, find out how much aid our gov't. gives yours, >how many of you immigrants are prospering here now and the many other ways >"that damn US gov't." has helped your country. Some of you make me sick!

    "You immigrants"?! Aren't we ALL immigrants?

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:13:11 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sound good?? Message-ID: <008b01c2f31b$b92bd7c0$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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    I also gave in to my own impatience and grabbed Damnation off some p2p networks. Good album... I think one track is incomplete though... how long is your track #4? ----- Original Message ----- From: Karyn Hamilton To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:23 AM Subject: RE: Sound good??

    >Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:18:29 +1100 >From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> >Subject: RE: Sound good??

    <snip>

    >Your very own war flame list is but a click to yahoo groups away.

    Word...I couldn't have said it better myself.

    >Now for something worthwhile. > >Are there any aussies that are going to be at the Opeth concert in Sydney? >I know Karyn is coming :P

    Indeed I am. I also have a *cough* early copy of Damnation which I'll put in a plug for, I'm impressed with their latest offering :-) Being as I am of the ilk which prefers the clean-vocalled Opeth, Damnation is very much to my taste. I'm looking forward to the show :-)

    -- Karyn

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:29:58 EST From: Kgahjah1@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: OSI Message-ID: <10.2e657613.2bb24e86@aol.com>

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    to be honest, i've had the disk about a week and i haven't even listened to the second disk. i've only "skimmed" it. i'm hoping to set some time aside this coming weekend to take in disk two. jacko

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    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:39:49 EST From: Kgahjah1@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: immigrants? Message-ID: <90.34847844.2bb250d5@aol.com>

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    technically, i'm only part immigrant i'm part cherokee and delaware, among 6 or 7 european nationalities that came over here (the US) prior to 1840. jacko the mutt

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