YTSEJAM digest 6504

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Mar 28 2003 - 23:04:01 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Falsetto
     by "Bryan Adams" <badams@orbitonline.com>
      2) Re: Falsetto
     by Chris <ccooney@comcast.net>
      3) Re: Falsetto
     by Chris <ccooney@comcast.net>
      4) Something Progged This Way Comes
     by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hombr=E9 Scott M." <ninja@mindspring.com>
      5) I guess I know what I'm doing this summer...
     by Thor Bazler <thor@thorbazler.com>
      6) head voices give me head colds
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
      7) RE: Something Progged This Way Comes
     by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
      8) Neal Morse on vocals
     by "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
      9) Re: Dali's Dilemma
     by Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
     10) Rant about Prog
     by "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
     11) Re: Rant about Prog
     by Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
     12) Re: Something Progged This Way Comes
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
     13) Re: I guess I know what I'm doing this summer...
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     14) Re: head voices give me head colds
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     15) the DREAM tour
     by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
     16) Styx/Where are they now?
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
     17) Re: Dali's Dilemma
     by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
     18) DT/QR/FW tour!
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
     19) Re: Styx/Where are they now?
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
     20) Pain of Salvation question
     by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@generalcable.com>
     21) Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history
     by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
     22) Re: Morphine
     by HadesRaze@aol.com
     23) RE: Pain of Salvation question
     by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
     24) Re: Pain of Salvation question
     by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
     25) Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     26) Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history
     by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
     27) DT summer tour?!?
     by WoodyTJ34@aol.com

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:04:19 -0700
    From: "Bryan Adams" <badams@orbitonline.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Falsetto
    Message-ID: <4E59D2C275D4CE4B9A753083C7A0DB6E0D5657@orbit-irr.com>

    Geoff Tate probably has the biggest range of any "rock" vocalist I've heard. Super low to super high. (Check their first album for some killer high parts, a la "Queen of the Ryche")
     
    Any Kamelot listeners out there? I just picked up their Epica album and I'm hooked. Their lead singer used to be out of control, in my opinion, but the last two albums have been awesome. I really, really like Epica. Go figure, but it's an epic album, 60 minutes strong, with a mix of crunchy guitars and double-bass drums, and a couple of nice ballads. I think I like SymphX more than Kamelot, but they're similar. (compare to SX's "V" CD--love it, btw)
    .Bryan..

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:31:43 -0500
    From: Chris <ccooney@comcast.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Falsetto
    Message-ID: <016b01c2f4e2$ef705d60$4ca85444@shlb1201.mi.comcast.net>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Bryan Adams <badams@orbitonline.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:01 PM
    Subject: Falsetto

    > <snip>
    > Okay Eric, Jason, looks like I'm one of those confusing head voice with
    > falsetto. About what you said... one of the reasons I like James'
    > singing that much is that he doesn't want to hit the high notes ALL the
    > time. Diversity is the key to interesting music, and this should
    > definitely be the case in prog(metal).
    > <snip>
    >
    > James doesn't "want" to hit the high notes ALL the time? I think he
    > sings the notes as written and/or directed by the melody. I don't think
    > he chooses to sing the next verse an octave higher than written, etc.

        From interviews I've read, and from getting to talk to James a little
    bit on the last tour, I think he is definitely involved in his vocal lines.
    I don't think the rest of the band say "here sing it exactly this way." He
    certainly shows off his diversity on the Mullmuzzler stuff as well.

    Chris

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:38:07 -0500
    From: Chris <ccooney@comcast.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Falsetto
    Message-ID: <01ac01c2f4e3$d4de7ee0$4ca85444@shlb1201.mi.comcast.net>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Bryan Adams <badams@orbitonline.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:19 PM
    Subject: Falsetto

    > Geoff Tate probably has the biggest range of any "rock" vocalist I've
    heard. Super low to super high. (Check their first album for some killer
    high parts, a la "Queen of the Ryche")
    >
    > Any Kamelot listeners out there? I just picked up their Epica album and
    I'm hooked. Their lead singer used to be out of control, in my opinion, but
    the last two albums have been awesome. I really, really like Epica. Go
    figure, but it's an epic album, 60 minutes strong, with a mix of crunchy
    guitars and double-bass drums, and a couple of nice ballads. I think I like
    SymphX more than Kamelot, but they're similar. (compare to SX's "V"
    CD--love it, btw)
    > .Bryan..

        I like Kamelot, but I don't think they really sound anything like
    Symphony X at all. Karma is a very strong album. I don't like Epica as
    well, but it is kind of new still.

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:02:52 -0500
    From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hombr=E9 Scott M." <ninja@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Something Progged This Way Comes
    Message-ID: <3E83D64C.DF8BF70C@mindspring.com>

    Well, if this ain't official, it's pretty damn close to it, without
    being uttered, verbatim, from the virgin lips of John Paul XXVII, Ralph
    Nader or Ray Alder themselves... ??

    http://www.queensryche.com/latest_news/index.html

    Once you goto the Latest News section, you'll know EXACTLY what I'm
    referring too... so pick yourself up off 'da floor' get out your dancin'
    shoes, put on your best velor vest, hawaiian shirt, courderoy pleated
    trousers, and that terrycloth headband...

    'nuff said.

    Thanks for your time, attention, and, er... donation of time for
    listening (to VIRTUALITY, too) and donation of bodilly organs.

    - Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy
    Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD
    http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/

    [PS: If some silly punkass posted that as a joke, they will rue the
    day!]

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:30:16 -0800
    From: Thor Bazler <thor@thorbazler.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: I guess I know what I'm doing this summer...
    Message-ID: <BAA91DE8.BF6%thor@thorbazler.com>

     From Queensryche.com:

    MARCH 27th, 2003
    You begged, you hoped, you pleaded, you prayed! And now I'm happy to
    announce that your prayers have finally been answered. This summer,
    Queensryche is set to hit the road with none other than Dream Theater! In
    50/50 co-headlining tour to begin this June, one thing's for sure... this
    WILL be the tour to see this summer. Next to the return of Chris DeGarmo has
    the news has bigger than this. And if you think the pairing up of these two
    bands was good enough, Fates Warning will be their special guest! Tour
    dates will be announced shortly. So stay tuned, there's a lot more to come,
    just you wait!

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:44:25 -0800 (PST)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: head voices give me head colds
    Message-ID: <20030328054425.9529.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>

    for what it's worth, I did end up buying that empty
    tremor cd after Arash's exhortations (apologies if
    necessary on that comment), and it was derivative,
    sure, but not bad, and considering their age at the
    time, rather impressive. Never did follow up on the
    band; did they release anything afterwards?

    awright, we can't talk about wars, and talking about
    falsettos makes me wanna whine, so can we talk about
    something else?

    Like the Dream Theater/Queensryche/Fates Warning tour
    that's being touted on www.queensryche.com?????

    might be fun

    partha

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:53:30 -0600
    From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Something Progged This Way Comes
    Message-ID: <f030327235330540E@klindt.org>

    OMG! OMG! OMG!

    I hope this comes somewhere close.

    tk
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hombr=E9 Scott M.
    Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:22 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list

    Well, if this ain't official, it's pretty damn close to it, without
    being uttered, verbatim, from the virgin lips of John Paul XXVII, Ralph
    Nader or Ray Alder themselves... ??

    http://www.queensryche.com/latest_news/index.html

    Once you goto the Latest News section, you'll know EXACTLY what I'm
    referring too... so pick yourself up off 'da floor' get out your dancin'
    shoes, put on your best velor vest, hawaiian shirt, courderoy pleated
    trousers, and that terrycloth headband...

    'nuff said.

    Thanks for your time, attention, and, er... donation of time for
    listening (to VIRTUALITY, too) and donation of bodilly organs.

    - Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy Scott Mosher - The
    VIRTUALITY CD http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/

    [PS: If some silly punkass posted that as a joke, they will rue the
    day!]

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:36:23 +0100
    From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Neal Morse on vocals
    Message-ID: <010401c2f4f4$5a3f7160$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx>

    C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties.

    >FWIW, my favourite prog vocals ever are on Snow by Spock's Beard. Neal
    >Morse may not have the range but every word he sings has emotion in spad
    es.
    >(I think even more so on this album as he knew he was leaving the band h
    e
    >loved.) And the others more than back him up.

    I HAVE to back you up on this one !

    Now that Neals left, especially after "Snow", there'll be a gaping space
    to fill in...
    I'm not the first to say this but : I wouldn't like to be SB now and have
     to follow up that album after "Snow" !
    Good luck SB, I hope they prove I'm wrong and rock me again !

       ACBLF

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    Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:58:58 -0800 (PST)
    From: Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Dali's Dilemma
    Message-ID: <20030328075858.2073.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

    --- Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> wrote:
    > Interesting! It seems they are up to a new album. DAMN, i liked that
    > singer!!!!! He was like an alternative rock turned progster =)

    Yup so did I. I wonder what's the story behind the lineup changes.
    I heard about the label problems before though. Well, Magna Carta is a
    great label for starting bands (or at least, it used to be, can't
    remember to have bought a new MC release over the last years), but they
    suck at supporting a fairly succesful band or a band with tour
    potential. Nowadays InsideOut is definitely the label to go with.

    --- Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
    > I quite like them, though sometimes they sound like they're trying to
    > be too
    > much DT :P There are some parts I hear in there that sound very much
    > like
    > Metropolis...

    I think they did that intentionally. I mean it's not that some parts
    SOUND like metropolis, they just PLAYED a snippet from metropolis on
    that last song.

    Peter

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 05:37:40 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
    To: The ytsejam mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Rant about Prog
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.33.0303280408070.13432-100000@mezzo.eecs.tufts.edu>

    Hello all,

    I'm not at all surprised why more people are not into prog rock. As with
    any genre, prog contains certain stereotypes, such as:

    1. Typically high-pitched male singers who are just about drama queens.

    2. Musicians who spend more energy killing time (i.e. wanking) than
    kicking ass.

    3. Extended songs/albums with story lines that are often taken way too
    seriously by zealous fans ("Who killed Mary in 'operation:mindcrime'?"
    "Who assumed control at the end of '2112?'" and so on.)

    4. Only appeals to the "thinking man" set.

    Sure, there's more quality in Prog than in regular Pop music, which is a
    product of both greater talent and higher ideals on the part of Prog
    musicians. Perhaps the intricacy of Prog is too much for casual music
    listeners to handle. However, do these qualities redeem "progressive"
    material that is not compelling? I think not.

    In contrast to Prog, look at Punk. Punk music is not known for refined
    vocals, time signature changes, or carpal-tunnel inducing musicianship.
    Punk is straight-from-the-gut emotional music, grounded in reality not
    fantasy. It's no wonder that Punk has attracted far more fans and
    critical respect than Prog ever has.

    Face it: Prog is not the best genre, and don't expect other people to
    appreciate it like you do. No amount of virtuosity can substitute for the
    spirit that is present when one _relates_ to a song. Perhaps current and
    future Prog musicians should realise this when they attempt to craft
    their next masterpiece.

    Thanks for reading.

    Electronically,
    Dom

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 03:14:08 -0800 (PST)
    From: Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Rant about Prog
    Message-ID: <20030328111408.29793.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

    --- "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
    > Face it: Prog is not the best genre

    Pointless remark. There's no such thing as 'the best genre'. Time for
    some Einstein: it's all relative and subjective. I happen to like prog,
    you may not so to me discussion is closed.

    > Perhaps current and future Prog musicians should realise this when
    they attempt to craft their next masterpiece.

    Why should they? They like what they're doing, and so do a number of
    other people (constituting a more than significant proportion on this
    list for instance :-)). I've never heard of a genre changing itself
    because of people not liking it. Will never happen.

    Cheers

    Peter

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:12:16 EST
    From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Something Progged This Way Comes
    Message-ID: <1e1.57e0b68.2bb5b240@aol.com>

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    i agree w/ scott, if this is true, HFS. it will be a must see for me. if this
    is some kind of sick joke i'll be very pissed.
    jacko

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:18:18 -0500
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: I guess I know what I'm doing this summer...
    Message-ID: <001c01c2f534$e12aac90$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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    Cool! QR, FW and DT... that's pretty cool. Will DT's new album be out by then? I doubt it.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Thor Bazler
      To: Multiple recipients of list
      Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:51 AM
      Subject: I guess I know what I'm doing this summer...

      From Queensryche.com:

      MARCH 27th, 2003
      You begged, you hoped, you pleaded, you prayed! And now I'm happy to
      announce that your prayers have finally been answered. This summer,
      Queensryche is set to hit the road with none other than Dream Theater! In
      50/50 co-headlining tour to begin this June, one thing's for sure... this
      WILL be the tour to see this summer. Next to the return of Chris DeGarmo has
      the news has bigger than this. And if you think the pairing up of these two
      bands was good enough, Fates Warning will be their special guest! Tour
      dates will be announced shortly. So stay tuned, there's a lot more to come,
      just you wait!

    --Boundary_(ID_necPqPLTU4VwhPFE5r1tNg)
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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:18:54 -0500
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: head voices give me head colds
    Message-ID: <002501c2f534$f6a63f30$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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    Which CD did you buy? Apokolowhatever it is, or Eros & Thanatos? In other words, they have two albums =)
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Partha Mukhopadhyay
      To: Multiple recipients of list
      Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:51 AM
      Subject: head voices give me head colds

      for what it's worth, I did end up buying that empty
      tremor cd after Arash's exhortations (apologies if
      necessary on that comment), and it was derivative,
      sure, but not bad, and considering their age at the
      time, rather impressive. Never did follow up on the
      band; did they release anything afterwards?

      awright, we can't talk about wars, and talking about
      falsettos makes me wanna whine, so can we talk about
      something else?

      Like the Dream Theater/Queensryche/Fates Warning tour
      that's being touted on www.queensryche.com?????

      might be fun

      partha

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:00:39 -0300
    From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: the DREAM tour
    Message-ID: <002e01c2f549$71bb1920$860cb8c8@xx>

    My head is spinning, my body is aching......damn....just received this note
    (posted on queensryche.com)

    The Dream Tour - QUEENSRYCHE - DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING !!!!!!

    you lucky bastards :)

    Gilberto www.dreamtheater.com.br

    "You begged, you hoped, you pleaded, you prayed! And now I'm happy to
    announce that your prayers have finally been answered. This summer,
    Queensryche is set to hit the road with none other than Dream Theater! In
    50/50 co-headlining tour to begin this June, one thing's for sure... this
    WILL be the tour to see this summer. Next to the return of Chris DeGarmo has
    the news has bigger than this. And if you think the pairing up of these two
    bands was good enough, Fates Warning will be their special guest! Tour
    dates will be announced shortly. So stay tuned, there's a lot more to come,
    just you wait!"

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:23:58 -0800
    From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Styx/Where are they now?
    Message-ID: <004a01c2f54e$d192aca0$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>

    Anybody heard thier new one "Cyclorama"? Is it out yet?

    Speaking of Where are they now, does anyone know what
    happened to Altura after thier one release "Mercy" on Magna Carta?

    trevor
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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:51:03 -0800
    From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Dali's Dilemma
    Message-ID: <20030328095103.A30280@zero.corp.publichost.com>

     0. Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com> farted:
    >
    > --- Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> wrote:
    > > Interesting! It seems they are up to a new album. DAMN, i liked that
    > > singer!!!!! He was like an alternative rock turned progster =)
    >
    > Yup so did I. I wonder what's the story behind the lineup changes.
    > I heard about the label problems before though. Well, Magna Carta is a
    > great label for starting bands (or at least, it used to be, can't
    > remember to have bought a new MC release over the last years), but they
    > suck at supporting a fairly succesful band or a band with tour
    > potential. Nowadays InsideOut is definitely the label to go with.

    The next Dali's album will most likely NOT be on MC, I'm not sure
    what label it will come out on.

    >
    > --- Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
    > > I quite like them, though sometimes they sound like they're trying to
    > > be too
    > > much DT :P There are some parts I hear in there that sound very much
    > > like
    > > Metropolis...
    >
    > I think they did that intentionally. I mean it's not that some parts
    > SOUND like metropolis, they just PLAYED a snippet from metropolis on
    > that last song.

    Well, I think you have to realize that most of the music written
    for MMF was written 3 years before it was released!!

    -- 
    --------------
    http://www.zeromemory.com - metal for your ears.
    

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:18:06 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT/QR/FW tour! Message-ID: <002a01c2f556$61480e60$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>

    Yahoo! They better come to Seattle! I don't know about co-headlining status of DT and QR though....... IMO, QR should be co-openers with FW...... Trevor ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:50:22 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Styx/Where are they now? Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030328135010.00b6dfd8@mail.comcast.net>

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    I haven't heard the new Styx yet, but I am about to gin investigate.

    At 12:48 PM 3/28/2003, you wrote:

    >Anybody heard thier new one "Cyclorama"? Is it out yet? > >Speaking of Where are they now, does anyone know what >happened to Altura after thier one release "Mercy" on Magna Carta? > >trevor >---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment

    -- Damon Fibraio, email dfibraio@comcast.net Musician, broadcaster, computer technician, and troublemaker aol instant messenger screenname: dfibraio MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio@comcast.net Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f Band sites: Visions: http://www.visions692000.com: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com Personal web site: http://www.damonfibraio.com Listen to no Holds Barred Radio. Go to our site at http://www.nhbradio.com "Celebrate the moment, As it turns into one more Another chance at victory, Another chance to score The measure of the moment, Is a difference of degree Just one little victory, A spirit breaking free One little victory"--Neil Peart of Rush "Seize the day, and don't you cry, now it's time to say goodbye Even though, I'll be gone, I will live on."--Dream Theater, A Change of Seasons

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:59:39 -0500 From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@generalcable.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Pain of Salvation question Message-ID: <C2585FD5E8EF8E45B8C1EE08C4BF1BEE018F9DE9@hqexs20>

    OK. So, I bought One Hour by the Concrete Lake a while back. I've listened to it several times, and it does absolutely nothing for me. It all has too much of a "sameness" about it, I guess. I don't dislike it, I just have no desire to ever listen to it again. That being said, is it worth my time to try out any of their other stuff? If OHbtCL is a "typical" POS CD, then perhaps they're just not my style. Any one have any input?

    Thanks, Jason

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:39:10 -0600 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history Message-ID: <BAAA2B2E.3F3D%mnazer@pressenter.com>

    on 3/26/03 11:18 PM, Mike Shetzer at echo26@videotron.ca wrote:

    > > wait, you're a female who likes Opeth and DT? We must meet, my dear :)

    Hey Mr. Shetzer......where have you been. There are many females on the jam that like Opeth and DT! I am seeing them is May, can't wait!

    Pam

    "Hi" John Myung, 8/23/1998

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:42:56 -0500 From: HadesRaze@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Morphine Message-ID: <68E0F46E.6A9250C0.023EBECF@aol.com>

    In a message dated 3/27/2003 10:46:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    > From: Kgahjah1@aol.com > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: High pitched vocals (was: Flamewar history) > Message-ID: <187.17794e4f.2bb4f338@aol.com> > > > --part1_187.17794e4f.2bb4f338_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > this is just my opinion here, but i think of falsetto as beegees and prince. > geddy lee just has an unusually high pitched voice. > as for Geoffrey tattoo having a high pitched voice, i would tend to disagree. > listen to the empire album. he has a great voice and can sing in low range > and very high range, but i personally wouldn't call that falcetto. > i'm not super into prog music, so i don't know many of the names out there, > but if more sounded like tate or kevin in osi, i'd trade in > my morphine, > grant lee buffalo, and todd rundgren for the prog. > jacko

    I really hope you're kidding about trading in your Morphine for anything, cat. =) I can't listen to DT when I am trashed ALL the time, which is most of the time. =D Sandmann really sweeps the dames off their feet, rest his soul.

    -Lee Brenn

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:44:09 -0600 From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Pain of Salvation question Message-ID: <78456F68557976489D12950E6AF785C54362@mercury.klindt.org>

    I bought that disc and felt the same way. Very "blah." I just didn't get it.

    tk -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of Herbert, Jason Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

    OK. So, I bought One Hour by the Concrete Lake a while back. I've listened to it several times, and it does absolutely nothing for me. It all has too much of a "sameness" about it, I guess. I don't dislike it, I just have no desire to ever listen to it again. That being said, is it worth my time to try out any of their other stuff? If OHbtCL is a "typical" POS CD, then perhaps they're just not my style. Any one have any input?

    Thanks, Jason

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:59:22 -0600 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Pain of Salvation question Message-ID: <BAAA5A1A.3F7C%mnazer@pressenter.com>

    on 3/28/03 4:33 PM, Herbert, Jason at jherbert@generalcable.com wrote:

    > OK. So, I bought One Hour by the Concrete Lake a while back. I've > listened to it several times, and it does absolutely nothing for me. It all > has too much of a "sameness" about it, I guess. I don't dislike it, I just > have no desire to ever listen to it again. That being said, is it worth my > time to try out any of their other stuff? If OHbtCL is a "typical" POS CD, > then perhaps they're just not my style. Any one have any input? > > Thanks, > Jason > I love POS and Concrete Lake is my favorite disc of theirs. Remedy lane is even more emotional than OHBTCL. I am guessing they just are not your cup of tea.

    Pam

    "Hi" John Myung, 8/23/1998

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:25:46 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history Message-ID: <006001c2f59a$815b05b0$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

    --Boundary_(ID_MGaMSXdNU4JSQQw9UkGoVA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

    Yeah, but since your email has a guy in its header, I assume I should I should lay off you ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history

    on 3/26/03 11:18 PM, Mike Shetzer at echo26@videotron.ca wrote:

    > > wait, you're a female who likes Opeth and DT? We must meet, my dear :)

    Hey Mr. Shetzer......where have you been. There are many females on the jam that like Opeth and DT! I am seeing them is May, can't wait!

    Pam

    "Hi" John Myung, 8/23/1998

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:39:42 -0600 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sound good?? and Re: Flamewar history Message-ID: <BAAA719E.3F83%mnazer@pressenter.com>

    on 3/28/03 8:40 PM, Mike Shetzer at echo26@videotron.ca wrote:

    > Yeah, but since your email has a guy in its header, I assume I should I should > lay off you ;)

    LOL, I wasn't looking for a date. It just gets to me when guys seem suprised that there are women who like prog.

    Pam

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    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:59:34 EST From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT summer tour?!? Message-ID: <55.3c571389.2bb67426@aol.com>

    Hey everyone, Just found this on the Metal update e-mail. I hope it's true.

    QUEENSRE8CHE / DREAM THEATER the two prog metal giants have plans to team up for a summer tour scheduled to begin in June

    See ya, Todd

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