YTSEJAM digest 6717

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Mon Nov 24 2003 - 00:08:06 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 6716
     by "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@hotmail.com>
      2) Fw: [PMS] Trey Gunn leaves King Crimson
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      3) rank and defiled
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
      4) Re: UK
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
      5) More TOT
     by Oddvar Lovaas <flail@geheb.com>
      6) Re: Favorite DT albums
     by Alfonso Vargas Gamio <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
      7) Re: carpet under snare
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
      8) Re: ATTN Pittburgh Symphony X Fans
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
      9) Re: More TOT
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     10) Re: UK
     by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
     11) The Way it Used to Be
     by "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:13:52 +0000
    From: "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 6716
    Message-ID: <BAY2-F148SRhqYzPOHc00005f82@hotmail.com>

    <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
    <DIV>Rob, </DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Good to see another UK fan here.&nbsp; You are pretty close, when you say it wasn't jazzy enough for Allan and Bill. They left because&nbsp;they liked to stretch it out live, and improvise (to this day Allan never plays the solo twice in a row). Wetton and Jobson wanted everything to be the same night after night (no pun intended).</DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I like&nbsp;both studio albums, but overall I think the 1st album with Allan and Bill is much better. Just my opinion of course.</DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>For all the others on the list, let's not forget DT covered UK's "In the Dead of Night" at Ronnie Scott's. Too bad that song wasn't chosen&nbsp;as one of the covers on ACoS.</DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Charlie&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Rob P" &lt;<A href="ytsejam2002@hotmail.com&msg=MSG1069564398.26&start">http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000001&a=27beb681152dea3994b2584da661d7c0&mailto=1&to=ytsejam2002@hotmail.com&msg=MSG1069564398.26&start'4423&amp;len=13335&amp;src=&amp;type=x" target=_top><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000099>ytsejam2002@hotmail.com</FONT></A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>UK came about from a project that Robert Fripp wanted to start after King <BR>Crimson with both Wetton and Bruford with of all people Rick Wakeman.&nbsp; Fripp <BR>basically faded into the background and they recruited Eddie Jobson instead <BR>of Wakeman.&nbsp; Jobson had played on KC's live disc USA (overdubs).&nbsp; Allan <BR>Holdsworth then joined on guitar and that lineup recorded the self titled <BR>album.&nbsp; Both Bruford and Holdsworth left (mostly likely because UK wasn't <BR>jazzy enough) and Wetton &amp; Jobson recruited ex-Zappa drummer Terry Bozzio <BR>for "Danger Money" (my fave) and the subsequent live CD "Night Af! !
    </DIV>&gt;ter Night". <BR>&nbsp; I love UK as you can tell.&nbsp; Jobson is a great player and very underrated.&nbsp; <BR>Wetton has one of the best voices in progressive rock.<BR>
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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:40:56 -0500
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Fw: [PMS] Trey Gunn leaves King Crimson
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    If you don't mind me forwarding:

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Steve
    To: progressivemusicsociety@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 11:39 PM
    Subject: [PMS] Trey Gunn leaves King Crimson

    --- In pt-darkmatter@yahoogroups.com, "Indyrod" <indyrod@y...> wrote:
    It was announced today, that Trey Gunn, the amazing Warr Guitarist,
    has decided to make his departure
    from King Crimson. Crimson is at the end of their North American
    tour. This leaves Fripp and the remaining
    members in another transition period, which is nothing new for the
    fans of King Crimson.

    http://www.treygunn.com/word/letter.html

    King Crimson ColleKctive
    http://www.fraKctured.net
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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:51:47 -0800 (PST)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: rank and defiled
    Message-ID: <20031123085147.81582.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>

    1) I&W
    2) Awake
    3) WDADU
    4 or 5) SFAM
    5 or 5) TOT
    6) FII
    7) ACoS
    8) 6DOIT

    i haven't made this list since....probably when SFAM
    was released....I know i used to like WDADU better
    than Awake, and maybe sfam over awake, too, but I've
    changed my mind on the Awake album some oever the past
    few months....

    6DOIT as my least favorite DT album, huh? Kind of
    surprised at that result, but trhiking it over, it
    makes sense....that second disc....er....yeah.

    Can't decide where exactly Train of Thought should fit
    in....and can't listen to it try and resolve it....I
    went to the Type O/Cradle of Filth show i asked about
    last week....type o was blah, the cradle part was an
    awesome experience, my first ever REAL metal show, and
    I kinda got into it.

    but anyway, during the course of the night, my Train
    got stolen, so I can't listen to it to figure out
    where exactly it lies in my pantheon of DT discs. I'll
    be visiting best buy before too long....

    partha

    "if you can't take it with you then what's the use?
    i never saw a u-haul being pulled behind a hearse."
    -extreme

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:29:06 EST
    From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: UK
    Message-ID: <1c3.12193307.2cf21e32@aol.com>

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    i did not know that.
    thanks for the info. i'm always eager to learn trivia about the obscure
    bands that i listen to.
    jacko

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:28:08 -0800
    From: Oddvar Lovaas <flail@geheb.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: More TOT
    Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031123102209.0260fbe0@geheb.com>

    Been listening to TOT quite a bit this weekend, and it is still growing...
    from good to real good!

    "Endless Sacrifice" is a really good song, love Jordan's "guitar" solo
    (first one). The lyrics surely deal with Petrucci's frustration over
    touring and thus being away from his wife?

    "In the name of God" is just getting better, really like the way it jumps
    between the heavy riff and the opened up solo section - again, a classic DT
    track! And the Battle Hymn in the very end is just brilliant! Not to
    mention that the last note is played by Jordan's nose! :)

    "SoC" is a true classic, can't get enough of this one. It is... perfect.

    Cheers,
    Oddvar

    NP: King Crimson - The Power To Believe

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:11:37 -0600 (CST)
    From: Alfonso Vargas Gamio <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Favorite DT albums
    Message-ID: <20031123211137.93155.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com>

    1. Awake
    2. I&W
    3. FiI
    4. SfaM
    5. 6DoIT
    6. WDaDU
    7. ToT

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:39:36 +0000 (UTC)
    From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: carpet under snare
    Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0311232138300.21909@norge.freeshell.org>

    don't suppose you're referring to the snare "strainer", which is the
    wire-type band that's stretched across the bottom head of the snare drum??

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Sebastian Keil wrote:

    > Just to clarify, I didn't mean a carpet as in carpet of cloth under the
    > snare stand, but the chain carpet (in Germany it's called carpet) directly
    > under the resonance thing on the bottom.
    > sab
    >
    >

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:41:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ATTN Pittburgh Symphony X Fans Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0311232140140.21909@norge.freeshell.org>

    awwwww, shit!! got that message about 1 day too late, my friend. *going into a corner to pout now*

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 CerminaraChris@aol.com wrote:

    > I know it's very short notice, but I have two tickets to tonight's Symphony X > show in Cleveland. Unfortunately, I just found out I can't go. If anyone is > interested, e-mail me ASAP and I can make arrangements to meet you somewhere. > I think the show starts at 8. BTW, the tickets are free. >

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:33:26 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: More TOT Message-ID: <000b01c3b21a$314ed690$9b00a8c0@mizz>

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    lol, JR's NOSE?! stop smoking the crack pipe there... :P

    ----- Original Message ----- From: Oddvar Lovaas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: More TOT

    Been listening to TOT quite a bit this weekend, and it is still growing... from good to real good!

    "Endless Sacrifice" is a really good song, love Jordan's "guitar" solo (first one). The lyrics surely deal with Petrucci's frustration over touring and thus being away from his wife?

    "In the name of God" is just getting better, really like the way it jumps between the heavy riff and the opened up solo section - again, a classic DT track! And the Battle Hymn in the very end is just brilliant! Not to mention that the last note is played by Jordan's nose! :)

    "SoC" is a true classic, can't get enough of this one. It is... perfect.

    Cheers, Oddvar

    NP: King Crimson - The Power To Believe

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:41:41 -0500 From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: UK Message-ID: <Law15-F114FUqjAgoHI00017d87@hotmail.com>

    I even heard rumours of a reunion a few years back with Wetton and Jobson heading it up. Bruford said he hadn't heard anything about it at the time. I believe it was blamed on a scheduling conflict so it never happened. Not sure what the lineup would have been, but I'm sure it would've been great either way.

    >From: "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 6716 >Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:02:24 -0800 (PST) > ><html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> ><DIV>Rob, </DIV></DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Good to see another UK fan here.&nbsp; You are pretty close, when you >say it wasn't jazzy enough for Allan and Bill. They left because&nbsp;they >liked to stretch it out live, and improvise (to this day Allan never plays >the solo twice in a row). Wetton and Jobson wanted everything to be the >same night after night (no pun intended).</DIV> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>I like&nbsp;both studio albums, but overall I think the 1st album with >Allan and Bill is much better. Just my opinion of course.</DIV> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>For all the others on the list, let's not forget DT covered UK's "In >the Dead of Night" at Ronnie Scott's. Too bad that song wasn't >chosen&nbsp;as one of the covers on ACoS.</DIV> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Charlie&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Rob P" &lt;<A >href="ytsejam2002@hotmail.com&msg=MSG1069564398.26&start">http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000001&a=27beb681152dea3994b2584da661d7c0&mailto=1&to=ytsejam2002@hotmail.com&msg=MSG1069564398.26&start'4423&amp;len=13335&amp;src=&amp;type=x" >target=_top><FONT face=Tahoma >color=#000099>ytsejam2002@hotmail.com</FONT></A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>UK came >about from a project that Robert Fripp wanted to start after King ><BR>Crimson with both Wetton and Bruford with of all people Rick >Wakeman.&nbsp; Fripp <BR>basically faded into the background and they >recruited Eddie Jobson instead <BR>of Wakeman.&nbsp; Jobson had played on >KC's live disc USA (overdubs).&nbsp; Allan <BR>Holdsworth then joined on >guitar and that lineup recorded the self titled <BR>album.&nbsp; Both >Bruford and Holdsworth left (mostly likely because UK wasn't <BR>jazzy >enough) and Wetton &amp; Jobson recruited ex-Zappa drummer Terry Bozzio ><BR>for "Danger Money" (my fave) and the subsequent live CD "Night Af! ! ></DIV>&gt;ter Night". <BR>&nbsp; I love UK as you can tell.&nbsp; Jobson is >a great player and very underrated.&nbsp; <BR>Wetton has one of the best >voices in progressive rock.<BR> ><DIV></DIV> ><DIV></DIV><BR clear=all> ><HR> ><A href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2731??PS=">Say goodbye to busy signals >and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at >less than $1 a day average.* <BR></A>*Prices may vary by service area. ><DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr> <a >href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2734??PS=">Share holiday photos without >swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now!</a> </html> > >---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command

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    Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:46:34 -0500 From: "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Way it Used to Be Message-ID: <BOEAJJBDNFPALMNMJONIEEBICGAA.iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>

    Anybody know where I can find the tab to this? It's actually one of my favorite DT songs.

    -Dan.

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