YTSEJAM Digest 6777
Today's Topics:
1) A new, different world
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
2) DT's large halls & the aftershow meet-n-greet & OT movie stuff
by "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
3) Remember?
by Rick Audet <spine@electricrain.com>
4) Re: meet'n'greets/package tickets
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
5) Re: meet'n'greets/package tickets
by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
6) Re: Remember?
by Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
7) Re: Ticket Prices
by Tuflus Jacob Khan <puppiesonacid@softhome.net>
8) Re: Remember?
by "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net>
9) Re: My top 10 for 2003
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
10) Re: Remember?
by Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:53:43 -0800
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: A new, different world
Message-ID: <20040125035343.GA29327@zero>
I remember the days when you could hang out with DT during or after
shows when they weren't so "BIG"... but alas, times change and
yes, it does get tiring from a bandmember's perspective to continue
revelling with the fans. So how do you deal with it? Make some
cash off of it... since that's what you do for a living anyways...
I don't think MP has changed fundamentally, like if you cornered him
alone in a bar, he would still be the same old MP, but if you catch
him in a public setting... he would much rather charge you for his
time, just like any professional who becomes more experienced in his
time... sad?? Yes... but alas, that's what he does for a living.
So how do I feel? I feel sorry for most of the new fans. The only
way to truly get personal with the band is by paying such fees. When
I first heard of Dreamt Theater, I called them while they were playing
locally in Socal, before I&W, during the ATCO days. I would call em
and ask for presale tickets, and you got to talk to MP or Kevin directly.
But things change, for the better? or for worse?
-The Doc
0. Rob P <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> farted:
> Brian is right. And what makes this even worse for me is MP's attempt to
> "blame" their management for the idea and then claim it's for "better
> lighting". Gimme a break. If you are going to soak the hardcore fans
> (since those are the only people willing or stupid enough to pay this
> charge), then at least be man enough to admit it! If it was management's
> idea, then why did he agree to it? Because he thinks it is okay to do it!!!
> And yes they most certainly have the right do soak the fans. And I have
> the right to call him on it. This is just a continuation of the ToT album
> for me. Bad choice after bad choice. It's a shame...or is that sham? MP
> reminds me more and more of Gene Simmons and Lars. Take that anyway you
> want.
>
> Rob
>
>
> >From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu>
> >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> >Subject: Re: Ticket Prices
> >Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:52:22 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Neil Evans wrote:
> >
> > > DT can charge whatever they want for whatever product/service they want
> > > and you and I can choose to pay it or not. You seem to accept this as
> > > legally true, but not morally true. My point is to say it's morally
> > > correct as well. Too often I feel that fans have a perspective that
> > > basically amounts to "<insert favorite band> should live in near-poverty
> > > and regularly release CDs, and regularly tour, with both CD and tour
> > > prices set at 'reasonable' levels (reasonable as defined by ME) and
> > > anything higher than that is a sell-out and an affront to my dignity".
> > > This seems to match your point of view.
> >
> >I'll say again, you're just wrong. I'm sorry. That's a total
> >mischaracterization of my PoV. You're using a strawman. They're not living
> >in near-poverty. They simply aren't. They're doing okay for themselves,
> >and now they're taking something that most of them used to do for free,
> >just because they wanted to, and charging for it.
> >
> >And I'll come right out and say that every time I saw them (three times),
> >everyone *except* Portnoy was out there just hanging out with people
> >afterwards. He poked his head out the bus door and acted like he was doing
> >everyone a favor, waiting to be worshipped. I know everyone loves the guy,
> >I'm sorry, but I just can't help but see him from personal perception as
> >just another dumb-as-rocks NYC schmuck who loves that people kiss his ass.
> >I don't think he started out like that, but after aobut the 12th Modern
> >Drummer award I think it went to his head and now he's decided to start
> >soaking people.
> >
> >DT took a step down when he started writing lyrics, another step down when
> >he thought he was qualified to produce, and now....
> >
> >*shrug*
> >
> > > Sure, you and I may not like it, but to question DT's right to charge a
> > > demanded wage for certain seats is either foolish immaturity or (more
> > > damning) outright socialism. Period.
> >
> >Uhhh, do you know what "socialism" is? Apparently not. "Socialism" has to
> >do with a collectivist approach to providing social services. If you're
> >talking about price controls (which you are), socialism is not the word
> >you're looking for...
> >
> >I'll say it again: they have the right to charge what they want. And
> >people have the right to say "you used to do that free under the guise of
> >being good guys who like the fans. What's changed?"
> >
> >Fact is, this is the same stuff that people on this list have, for years,
> >castigated bands like KI$$ over. Now that it's DT you're all grasping at
> >straws to rationalize and kiss ass.
> >
> >-Brian
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:52:22 -0500 From: "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT's large halls & the aftershow meet-n-greet & OT movie stuff Message-ID: <BOEAJJBDNFPALMNMJONIAEGECGAA.iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
>I imagine nowadays it would be too much effort for a band playing large >halls like DT
I wouldn't really consider DT's typical venues to be "large halls." The Jones Beach Ampitheater, form what I've seen online, seems to be pretty big, but most of their venues are in the 3000-5000 capacity range. That's not really that big a deal.
I was going to comment about the aftershow appearances, but as I got to thinking about it, of the 4 times I've seen the whole band play, I've only hung around afterwards once. It was February in NYC and I was sick. After hanging around for over an hour, JP blew right by us, so I said screw this and went home. The G3 show and the Nyack Petrucci & Rudess one-off shows were a lot better. At the G3 show, both JP and MP came out and signed stuff. Even JR did, too, because he happened to be there backstage. At the Nyack show, they hung out in the lobby for quite a while. JP seems to be kind of quiet, but JR was pretty chatty.
I met JLB and JM backstage before the Rochester show very briefly - just enough to say hi. The building is set up for corporate & educational use, so it was easy to get up to the cafeteria and listen to the soundcheck and stuff. I probably could have chatted them up quite a bit, but I figured I'd give them space.
Something that's bothered me about these things is how gushy people get over them (this applies to all celebrities, really). At one point before the Rochester show, a couple of the guys were doing an interview with some local media figure, and a couple of the other fans who were up there were almost creaming their pants at seeing the band up close. This one guy was about to have a standing solo orgasm. Yeah, their cool and all, but they're just people who happen to be very good musicians.
At the meet-n-greets I've been to both with them and other similar musicians (Vai, Satch, etc), I've usually felt wierd trying to get chatty, because I haven't had anything intelligent to say. I remember Mike Keneally just shooting the breeze with a couple of us about upcoming gigs, but beyond that, a lot of these guys get mobbed with some of the most inane questions.
I don't know if there's any point to all of this. I'm just kind of rambling... :-)b
On a totally unrelated note: saw two movies today: The Butterfly Effect and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. I got CTHD for xmas, never seen it before. It was pretty good. The cinematography and coreography were outstanding. And it was chicks fighting! You can't go wrong with hot ninja chicks.
I was also really surprised at how good The Butterfly Effect was. I was expecting your typical mindless teenage thriller. When my gf suggested going to see it, I had to restrain myself to not roll my eyes and groan. There were some parts that were kind of dumb and added nothing, (mostly anything sexual), and there were a couple plot holes, but as a whole, it actually kept me guessing about what was coming.
-Dan.
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Audet <spine@electricrain.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Remember? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0401242135200.11005@zot.electricrain.com>
A little bit of nostalgia for those of you in this pic who are still on the list. Hello to you all. :)
http://electricrain.com/spine/calicrew.jpg
http://electricrain.com/spine/calicrew2.jpg
May 16, 1998, Falling Into Infinity tour, 2nd American leg.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:27:08 -0800 From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: meet'n'greets/package tickets Message-ID: <BC38BDDC.7CF4%schansen@cts.com>
>> And I'll come right out and say that every time I saw them (three times), >> everyone *except* Portnoy was out there just hanging out with people >> afterwards. He poked his head out the bus door and acted like he was doing >> everyone a favor, waiting to be worshipped. I know everyone loves the guy, >> I'm sorry, but I just can't help but see him from personal perception as >> just another dumb-as-rocks NYC schmuck who loves that people kiss his ass. >> I don't think he started out like that, but after aobut the 12th Modern >> Drummer award I think it went to his head and now he's decided to start >> soaking people. > > Like someone else mentioned, it's basically the luck of the draw when it > comes to waiting by the busses. I've been fortunate to go to quite a few > shows (17) and Mike Portnoy came out more often than not. He signed stuff, > took pictures, and was quite personable and very down to earth. If you show > up a few times, he even remembers you. In fact of all the times I've waited > by the bus, there has only been once instance where someone came out and he > didn't.
Thank you Chris! Tho Mr. Brian "High-on-my-friggin-horse" Hayden is quick to bash Portnoy every chance he can, he forgets all the POSITIVE things he DOES do for the fans. I have been to numerous aftershows and Mike has only neglected coming to one of them...Myung on the other hand has only showed up at 1/3 of them, if even that many. So I'm surprised Brian hasn't gone abooot bashing him. I think that just helps verify how biased he is against Mike.
Let's also not forget all the extra goodies Portnoy has passed on to the fans in the past, including all the fan club CD stuff, some of the Xmas gift goodies he has on his site, and all the official bootlegs. Yeah, you have to pay to get the fan club CDs as well as the official bootlegs, but so what? Pearl Jam does the same exact thing and I doubt you have any issues with how Pearl Jam runs things. Add to that all the live stuff that Mike pushes to have in the set - had it not been for him, you wouldn't get all the live covers, and you wouldn't even get a lot of the old tracks that appear in the set (especially WDaDU tracks). But again, I'm sure Brian has forgotten these things, or at least decides to ignore all these things... :-/
> Maybe we should just wait until the first few shows before assuming that > they won't still come out and hang with the people who wait for them > outside.
Thank you again Chris! For all you bashers, since when is the band not gonna take the time at the buses anymore? Show me a statement from any of the band members and then I'll shut up.
Let's take it one step further and also ask "how do we know DT still won't have the same meet'n'greets for fans as they have in the past?" Since MOST of the good/great tickets will still be available thru Ticketbastard, who's to say that the same won't also hold true for those hanging around the buses as well as the meet'n'greets? Until you know, stop ASSuming that they won't! It pisses me off when everyone just automatically thinks that because they now offer the platinum package, that everyone else is screwed. That's NOT the case. The platinum package simply guarantees fans certain things - some of these things they would NOT have access to otherwise.
> If I give them the benefit of a > doubt, then my guess is that, for some reason, DT > wanted a better light show, and maybe left it up to > management to figure out how to pay for the additional > costs.
While I don't know for sure, I'm guessing that this was the case. Was this the best choice? That is debateable. Would it have been better to simply bump up all ticket prices by $5? Probably. But to continually piss and moan, even tho only a handful of those packages will be available is stupid in my opinion - had all the seats between rows 1 and 30 been that way, I'd take issue with it too.
> I'm just glad that when I got to see DT > I got to hang out with all of them after the show > (except for Petrucci and Portnoy (but I had already > seen him in an in-store the day before the show)). > It's sad to know that other people won't have the > chance to have a similar experience unless they pay > for it.
Again, until we all know the FACTS, do NOT ASSume that people will still not have the same ways of otherwise being able to attend aftershows, or meeting the band at the buses.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:06:14 -0500 From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: meet'n'greets/package tickets Message-ID: <Law15-F114oxAkDTobf00059c66@hotmail.com>
I've never met DT and I never had the desire to. I tend not to want to meet people. mostly because I want to keep my own view of them. There is always a chance you can catch someone on a bad day (we all have them) and why run the risk? Plus I think the band deserves their privacy too. I mean I don't want someone waiting outside my job waiting to ask me about stuff I did during the day. I mentioned before about meeting Jon Anderson at a local eatery and I was very anxious about meeting him. He has meant alot to me over the years and thankfully he was amazing (I was a babbling idiot). But the risk factor was there.
Now, they most certainly can charge and that's fine. I do not think it will change their behaviour, whether good or bad. The problem is the direction this is taking. I don't agree with the principle and I think many people feel the same way. Yes MP has done much for the fans but he is also quick to make a buck off us. The problem is it's headed down that road more and more. Yeah I have the official bootlegs but that was part of this. Next we have this for the "eternal" DT fan? Oh man. I think I MIGHT not have been as ticked off if MP hadn't tried to cover his ass with the "it was the management's idea" disclaimer. Be a man and admit you okayed it.
It's gotten corporate and that was always the possibility. I think MP needs to be aware what the fans are saying and thinking, both about the musical direction (or lack thereof) and the message that this kind of thing gives off. That's why we are talking about all this! It's not that we don't appreciate the band and what they have done. By the same token, we're paying for EVERYTHING. And since we are financing their livelihood, we can say whatever we want. Period.
Rob
>From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: meet'n'greets/package tickets >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:40:38 -0800 (PST) > > >> And I'll come right out and say that every time I saw them (three >times), > >> everyone *except* Portnoy was out there just hanging out with people > >> afterwards. He poked his head out the bus door and acted like he was >doing > >> everyone a favor, waiting to be worshipped. I know everyone loves the >guy, > >> I'm sorry, but I just can't help but see him from personal perception >as > >> just another dumb-as-rocks NYC schmuck who loves that people kiss his >ass. > >> I don't think he started out like that, but after aobut the 12th Modern > >> Drummer award I think it went to his head and now he's decided to start > >> soaking people. > > > > Like someone else mentioned, it's basically the luck of the draw when it > > comes to waiting by the busses. I've been fortunate to go to quite a >few > > shows (17) and Mike Portnoy came out more often than not. He signed >stuff, > > took pictures, and was quite personable and very down to earth. If you >show > > up a few times, he even remembers you. In fact of all the times I've >waited > > by the bus, there has only been once instance where someone came out and >he > > didn't. > >Thank you Chris! Tho Mr. Brian "High-on-my-friggin-horse" Hayden is quick >to >bash Portnoy every chance he can, he forgets all the POSITIVE things he >DOES >do for the fans. I have been to numerous aftershows and Mike has only >neglected coming to one of them...Myung on the other hand has only showed >up >at 1/3 of them, if even that many. So I'm surprised Brian hasn't gone >abooot >bashing him. I think that just helps verify how biased he is against Mike. > >Let's also not forget all the extra goodies Portnoy has passed on to the >fans in the past, including all the fan club CD stuff, some of the Xmas >gift >goodies he has on his site, and all the official bootlegs. Yeah, you have >to >pay to get the fan club CDs as well as the official bootlegs, but so what? >Pearl Jam does the same exact thing and I doubt you have any issues with >how >Pearl Jam runs things. Add to that all the live stuff that Mike pushes to >have in the set - had it not been for him, you wouldn't get all the live >covers, and you wouldn't even get a lot of the old tracks that appear in >the >set (especially WDaDU tracks). But again, I'm sure Brian has forgotten >these >things, or at least decides to ignore all these things... :-/ > > > > > Maybe we should just wait until the first few shows before assuming that > > they won't still come out and hang with the people who wait for them > > outside. > >Thank you again Chris! For all you bashers, since when is the band not >gonna >take the time at the buses anymore? Show me a statement from any of the >band >members and then I'll shut up. > >Let's take it one step further and also ask "how do we know DT still won't >have the same meet'n'greets for fans as they have in the past?" Since MOST >of the good/great tickets will still be available thru Ticketbastard, who's >to say that the same won't also hold true for those hanging around the >buses >as well as the meet'n'greets? Until you know, stop ASSuming that they >won't! >It pisses me off when everyone just automatically thinks that because they >now offer the platinum package, that everyone else is screwed. That's NOT >the case. The platinum package simply guarantees fans certain things - some >of these things they would NOT have access to otherwise. > > > > > If I give them the benefit of a > > doubt, then my guess is that, for some reason, DT > > wanted a better light show, and maybe left it up to > > management to figure out how to pay for the additional > > costs. > >While I don't know for sure, I'm guessing that this was the case. Was this >the best choice? That is debateable. Would it have been better to simply >bump up all ticket prices by $5? Probably. But to continually piss and >moan, >even tho only a handful of those packages will be available is stupid in my >opinion - had all the seats between rows 1 and 30 been that way, I'd take >issue with it too. > > > > > I'm just glad that when I got to see DT > > I got to hang out with all of them after the show > > (except for Petrucci and Portnoy (but I had already > > seen him in an in-store the day before the show)). > > It's sad to know that other people won't have the > > chance to have a similar experience unless they pay > > for it. > >Again, until we all know the FACTS, do NOT ASSume that people will still >not >have the same ways of otherwise being able to attend aftershows, or meeting >the band at the buses. > >Scott >
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:25:16 -0500 From: Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Remember? Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.1.20040125092432.01b29ff8@mail.verizon.net>
Wow is that a blast from the past! Thank you Rick! YOu just brought a warm smile to my face on a day when it's damn cold out!
Coldie...waiting for the snow
At 12:40 AM 1/25/2004, you wrote:
>A little bit of nostalgia for those of you in this pic who are still on >the list. Hello to you all. :) > >http://electricrain.com/spine/calicrew.jpg > >http://electricrain.com/spine/calicrew2.jpg > >May 16, 1998, Falling Into Infinity tour, 2nd American leg. > > >Rick Audet >San Francisco
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:07:43 -0300 From: Tuflus Jacob Khan <puppiesonacid@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ticket Prices Message-ID: <FD9747B4-4F58-11D8-9E26-000A958EAC16@softhome.net>
> The people donw here in Latin America would be pleased to have an > argument > like this, if only DT would show up here more often.
Yeah! We in Latin America can't even dream of seeing DT live... The last time they came here they did only one show in Brazil (I think) and the rest of the continent...... let's just say that 3000 km from Argentina to Brazil isn't a road trip, it's madness. So those of you how *just* need to drive 6 hours to see them, hell, go ahead and do it already!!
- Edu
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:25:15 -0500 From: "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Remember? Message-ID: <00e001c3e378$f5b9efd0$6401a8c0@amdathlon14>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Coldfire" <coldie@bellatlantic.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Remember?
> Wow is that a blast from the past! Thank you Rick! YOu just brought a > warm smile to my face on a day when it's damn cold out! > > > Coldie...waiting for the snow >
You shouldn't be having ANY trouble keeping warm, lady! <snicker>
BTW, I WASN'T in that picture.
Good day, Kez
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:04:46 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: My top 10 for 2003 Message-ID: <00b401c3e37e$7b2f55b0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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Glad to see some productive posts nowadays ;)
>1) Frameshift - Unweaving the Rainbow >There's not much more I can say about this album that >I haven't already said. This album is just brilliant.
Agreed. I wouldnt put it as my first choice (not sure if this is in order) though. James is so ON on this album it's scary :o)
>2) Bela Fleck and the Flecktones - Little Worlds >Another kickass album from the Flecktones. It's 3 cds >long and not one filler song!!!
Damn, bela, victor and futureman are just totally nuts. Bluegrass prog is what this is. I just saw a bit of their DVD... AHHHHH!!
>3) Ohm: >This is Chris Poland's new band, and I think this is >one of the best fusion album's I've heard in a long >time!!!! This is fusion with feeling, with quite a >few melodic songs that are just beautiful. This one >took me by surprise; it's that good. >6) Supared - Supared >I know not many people liked this album by the great >Michael Kiske, but I happen to think it's great. A >bit heavier than his previous effort, very catchy and >with great singing and great songs. >10) Masterplan - S/T >Amazing power metal album which sounds very fresh, not >rehashed like many other power metal bands. >Circle II Circle - Watching in Silence >It's so good to have more Zak Stevens!!!
More about these... I'm unfamiliar....
>4) Devin Townsend Band - Accelerated Evolution >Amazing album by Devin and co. It kicks ass while >still remaining very melodic and emotional.
Also agreed. Heavy Devy is one of my faves and has been since Ocean Machine. Listen to Deadhead and Away from this album to hear what I'm talking about.
>7) Dream Theater - Train of Thought >Another very good album by DT, although I think I like >6DOIT better. Still, it kicks ass and will continue >to get considerable playing time.
I'm still undecided about which one I like better. I have trouble ranking DT albums cuz they're all great in their own respects. Can't wait to see em on tour!
>8) Kamelot - Epica >Another great album by Kamelot, even though it's >nothing grounbreaking for them. Still, it's great and >he incredible Roy Khan gives another stellar >preformance on vocals.
I find these guys try to be Symphony X, but can't quite do it. I'm not that familiar with them, though, so that's just a big SX fan's impression... Still a strong disc though.
>9) John Arch - A Twist of Fate >Brilliant return by Mr. Arch. The only problem with >this album is that it's too short!!!!!!
Oh HELL do i agree. Thanks so much Alexis for your recommendation on this one. Arch is one of the most powerful, emotional singers I've ever heard. MP steps back on this album and plays the rhythmic drummer as opposed to the most technically proficient one. I didn't approve at first, I found he was too laid back, but the more I listen the more i LOVE this EP and MP's contribution!
>Marcel Coenen - Guitar Talk >Excellent guitar playing by this extremely talented >musician. >Sun Caged - S/T >Excellent progressive metal.
Yep. Marcel is pretty damn crazy on these two albums. I dont know if he still has videos up on his site but he's darn talented and worthy of mention.
>Neal Morse - Testimony >Great album by Neal and co., even if you don't care >about the religious lyrics.
I call this one Prog Gospel :) It's so christian it's overwhelming at times, but still a strong release from the ex SB frontman. MP once again is not the super prog drummer on this album, but takes a more TA approach and plays the backup rhythmic style drumming. I approve again :)
>Spock's Beard - Feel Euphoria >The guys definitely showed that there's still a lot of >talent left in that band.
I like the direction they took on this post NM album. I miss Neal and find that Nick tries a bit to sound Neal-ish at times, but it kinda suits the music anyway.
>Green Carnation - Blessing in Disguise >Very different from their previous effort, but still >amazing!!!
I find this album lacking a bit. Less original and powerful than LoD,DoD, but still somewhat decent. I suppose they shouldnt have made their super duper album before this one, cuz now they can't top it ;)
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:42:02 -0500 From: Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Remember? Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.1.20040125154054.01b46150@mail.verizon.net>
At 02:44 PM 1/25/2004, Kez typed and giggled:
> > Wow is that a blast from the past! Thank you Rick! YOu just brought a > > warm smile to my face on a day when it's damn cold out! > > > > > > Coldie...waiting for the snow > > > > >You shouldn't be having ANY trouble keeping warm, lady! <snicker>
hey now! ;) Okay I'll plead the 5th on that one! Hey aren't you supposed to be resting? I heard you were sick?
>BTW, I WASN'T in that picture.
awwwwww:( we need one with you in it! oh wait...I may have one around here somewhere.....
Coldie
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