YTSEJAM Digest 6831
Today's Topics:
1) Ogg and Winamp
by "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
2) Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg
by Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net>
3) RE: Toronto show, some comments...
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
4) of concerts & boots....
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
5) Re: Toronto show, some comments...
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
6) Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg
by Miguel Farah <miguel@antonia.lj.cl>
7) Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
8) Re: Ogg and Winamp
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
9) Re: Toronto show, some comments...
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
10) Re: Toronto show, some comments...
by "Jeremy Garman" <jgarman@woh.rr.com>
11) DC show last night (9:30 club)
by xcitor <xcitor@sdf.lonestar.org>
12) RE: Toronto show, some comments...
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13)
by <jaredemery@nordicware.com>
14) Re: Toronto show, some comments...
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
15) Re: DC show last night (9:30 club)
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
16) Re:
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:18:39 -0500
From: "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Ogg and Winamp
Message-ID: <BOEAJJBDNFPALMNMJONIAEMJCGAA.iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
I've heard bad things about some of the new versions of WinAmp, so I'm
sticking with 2.77. For ogg files, I use Quintessential Media Player, which
is available from download.com.
-Dan.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:07:30 -0500
From: Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg
Message-ID: <1080605250.15917.0.camel@localhost>
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 06:57, Chris Smart wrote:
Chris,
As a fan of both OGG and DT, I thank you. :)
-- Craig Maloney (craig@ic.net) http://ic.net/~craig "You should, without hesitation, pound your typewriter into a plowshare, your paper into fertilizer, and enter agriculture" -- Business Professor, University of Georgia------------------------------
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:50:35 +1000 From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMGEEADEAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
Is it finally able to play tracks back to back without gaps? The little pops between tracks on DT albums always pissed me off :P
I guess I should upgrade, I have some ancient version of Winamp...
> -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Souter, Jan-Michael > Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments... > > > The new Winamp 5.02 plays .ogg files just fine without any modifications. > I had old Winamp 2.6, and installed the full version of 5.02 and > was able to > double-click the .ogg files and play 'em just fine. :) Plus the new > version has some killer features. Free. >
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:06:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: The `Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: of concerts & boots.... Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0403300045180.21990@norge.freeshell.org>
hey, just out of curiousity, was anyone able to make it to the pittsburgh show on 3/23?? it's the first 2nd time in a row they've been in town that i've had to miss them (the other time being w/ fatez & queensryche, no less). what was it like??? post a review if you were there.
and, more importantly, if anyone made it to the show who happened to RECORD IT, then PLEASE let me know. oh yeah, that also applies to the show w/ FW & QR too!
thanks.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:10:50 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <001001c415d2$50594680$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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I'm using winamp 3.0 and it plays oggs just fine, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: Souter, Jan-Michael To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments...
The new Winamp 5.02 plays .ogg files just fine without any modifications. I had old Winamp 2.6, and installed the full version of 5.02 and was able to double-click the .ogg files and play 'em just fine. :) Plus the new version has some killer features. Free.
-----Original Message----- From: Niall Connaughton [mailto:ytsejam@bigpond.net.au]
> -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
> Boot of it at: > http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/dt.zip > > Chris
Thanks for the boot Chris. I downloaded a plugin for ogg for winamp. I have winamp 2.8, but I get nothing trying to play the files... any ideas?
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:34:21 -0400 From: Miguel Farah <miguel@antonia.lj.cl> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg Message-ID: <20040330033419.GA16265@antonia.lj.cl>
Chris Smart [29/03/2004 08:07] dijo/said: >Ok, after some grumbling, I relented and have posted a final version of the >Massey Hall Toronto 03/25/04 show in .mp3 format, with id3 info. The files >are encoded from the original uncompressed versions, at 192K, so the >quality should be sufficient for CDRs. It will be up for download for a >couple weeks. After that, it will be part of my Kazaa-lite shared folder. > >http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/toronto032504.zip
Thanks, dude!
-- MIGUEL FARAH // NOmigSPuelAM@lj.cl #include <disclaimer.h> // http://www.farah.cl <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:54:08 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg Message-ID: <001901c4160a$a7276f40$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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Yes, thanks a bunch Chris! I recorded my great show on a crappy little tape machine, so it probably sounds like junk, but we'll see. If it sounds okay I'll turn it digital. ----- Original Message ----- From: Miguel Farah To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Massey Hall DT bootleg
Chris Smart [29/03/2004 08:07] dijo/said: >Ok, after some grumbling, I relented and have posted a final version of the >Massey Hall Toronto 03/25/04 show in .mp3 format, with id3 info. The files >are encoded from the original uncompressed versions, at 192K, so the >quality should be sufficient for CDRs. It will be up for download for a >couple weeks. After that, it will be part of my Kazaa-lite shared folder. > >http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/toronto032504.zip
Thanks, dude!
-- MIGUEL FARAH // NOmigSPuelAM@lj.cl #include <disclaimer.h> // http://www.farah.cl <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:13:23 -0500 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Ogg and Winamp Message-ID: <005101c4160d$57fd9900$0100a8c0@one>
Winamp 3.x blows monkey chunks Winamp 4 AFAIK is nonexistent Winamp 5 is definitely awesome, it takes advantage of many of XP's features and still sounds as good as the original. Check it out if you liked 2.x and hated 3
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Ogg and Winamp
> I've heard bad things about some of the new versions of WinAmp, so I'm > sticking with 2.77. For ogg files, I use Quintessential Media Player, which > is available from download.com. > > -Dan. > >
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:15:55 -0500 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <005d01c4160d$b2ffc8f0$0100a8c0@one>
Winamp 5 by itself can not play gapless however there is a free plug-in (mp3splice.dll www.pyramidedata.dk) which does this very well.
Whipping the lama's ass since 1.85
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments...
> Is it finally able to play tracks back to back without gaps? The little pops > between tracks on DT albums always pissed me off :P > > I guess I should upgrade, I have some ancient version of Winamp... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > > Souter, Jan-Michael > > Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:59 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments... > > > > > > The new Winamp 5.02 plays .ogg files just fine without any modifications. > > I had old Winamp 2.6, and installed the full version of 5.02 and > > was able to > > double-click the .ogg files and play 'em just fine. :) Plus the new > > version has some killer features. Free. > > > >
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:42:21 -0500 From: "Jeremy Garman" <jgarman@woh.rr.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <001301c41654$72324ea0$8c4bd118@garmanpc>
That's not entirely accurate about Winamp 5 and gapless playback; you can fudge with the preferences and not have to use a plugin.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1184755#post1184755
Now gapless with Audio CDs is another story, I still can't get Winamp to do it even with the recommended preferences.
BTW, the idea behind Winamp 5... Why there is no version 4... Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5 Kinda clever. :-)
I've been using Winamp 5 since the PR beta days, and it's great, and only getting better.
*************************************** Jeremy Garman St. Marys, Ohio mailto:jgarman@woh.rr.com mailto:garmando74@hotmail.com ****************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments...
> Winamp 5 by itself can not play gapless however there is a free plug-in > (mp3splice.dll www.pyramidedata.dk) which does this very well. > > Whipping the lama's ass since 1.85 > > -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) > admdave@qis.net > http://www.bangarangband.com >
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:19:17 -0500 From: xcitor <xcitor@sdf.lonestar.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DC show last night (9:30 club) Message-ID: <20040330131917.GA10972@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG>
first of all, i don't have a set list. i could probably re-create _most_ of it, but there are people who i'm sure are better at it than i am. i will say they played Trial of Tears, which made me happy...
a few thoughts... this is the first time i saw crowd surfing and mosh pits at a DT show. as the 9:30 club is smallish, i was damn near punching a few jokers in the ribs. James was right on pretty much all night; i don't think he missed anything at all. JM was audible, which was nice, too. JP was _on point_ all night -- he just kept shredding, and he was awesome.
Jordan seemed to be enjoying himself, and was good all night. the Zappa tribute/jam thing was excellent, i thought. MP from a technical and execution standpoint was excellent. but he didn't seem to be the same old Mike -- you know always instigating hyjinx and stuff on stage. is he bummed out from the dude who fell off the balcony the other night? or is he just weary of being on the road? i dunno, i've seen probably close to 50 DT shows and i've not seen MP this un-motivated before. i'm not complaining, though, maybe it's just me being too critical.
the show started pretty much on time at 8:00pm, precisely a 15 minute intermission, and ended a bit after 11:15pm i think. i think that the video screens and the light show were an excellent addition to the stage. they had some pretty creative video sequences, particularly for `In the Name of God' (which was the encore, BTW).
i'm travelling to NYC this weekend to see their final show of this leg at MSG. i wonder if they'll have any surprises, what with being the final show and being in their hometown and all.
PS. does anyone know what the `ERT!' on the back of Mike's `eat my ass and balls' t-shirts means? i'm stumped.
-- xcitor@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:26:58 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <7EF7F2227EFFC445B5B244495CDC9D5175282F@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
Really? What speed CPU do you have Niall ? Mine is a 1.7gHz and when I select all of the .ogg DT files to "play in winamp", there is NOT a gap inbetween songs using WinAmp 5.02 (current version). There was a gap with my old WinAmp 2.6. Maybe it's different on different CPU's is all I can think of with the gap..
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Schott [mailto:admdave@qis.net]
Winamp 5 by itself can not play gapless however there is a free plug-in (mp3splice.dll www.pyramidedata.dk) which does this very well.
Whipping the lama's ass since 1.85
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
> Is it finally able to play tracks back to back without gaps? The little pops > between tracks on DT albums always pissed me off :P > > I guess I should upgrade, I have some ancient version of Winamp... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > > > > > > The new Winamp 5.02 plays .ogg files just fine without any modifications. > > I had old Winamp 2.6, and installed the full version of 5.02 and > > was able to > > double-click the .ogg files and play 'em just fine. :) Plus the new > > version has some killer features. Free. > > > >
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:54:15 -0600 From: <jaredemery@nordicware.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Message-ID: <18D395BCD83DC445B22A48483DC44CB66F9C61@nwfs-email.nordicware.nap>
I was on this list way back in '98, and now I'm back! This list was very good to me regarding new music finds, and hard to find MP3's, so i have lots of ideas for music that people here have never heard, and I'm sure would like. IN the coming weeks and months, I'll let you guys know more.
Jared
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:20:03 -0500 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments... Message-ID: <006f01c41672$dfd81660$0100a8c0@one>
That doesn't really work with well made MP3s. For example I ripped SFaM (EAC>WAV>SCMPX>MP3) and listened to it with the prefs fudged and with the plugin. Sounded much smoother with the plugin. Its free and very small, what do you have to loose?
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Garman" <jgarman@woh.rr.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments...
> That's not entirely accurate about Winamp 5 and gapless playback; you can > fudge with the preferences and not have to use a plugin. > > http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1184755#post1184755 > > Now gapless with Audio CDs is another story, I still can't get Winamp to do > it even with the recommended preferences. > > BTW, the idea behind Winamp 5... Why there is no version 4... > Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5 Kinda clever. :-) > > I've been using Winamp 5 since the PR beta days, and it's great, and only > getting better. > > *************************************** > Jeremy Garman > St. Marys, Ohio > mailto:jgarman@woh.rr.com > mailto:garmando74@hotmail.com > **************************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> > To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: Toronto show, some comments... > > > > Winamp 5 by itself can not play gapless however there is a free plug-in > > (mp3splice.dll www.pyramidedata.dk) which does this very well. > > > > Whipping the lama's ass since 1.85 > > > > -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) > > admdave@qis.net > > http://www.bangarangband.com > > > > >
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:28:25 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DC show last night (9:30 club) Message-ID: <004001c41674$068ae5c0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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>PS. does anyone know what the `ERT!' on the back of Mike's `eat my ass and >balls' t-shirts means? i'm stumped.
HAHAHAHA, i didnt see that shirt!!!! I'll always remember bursting into laughter while he and JP were singing that on the DVD the first time I heard it.
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:29:29 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Message-ID: <004f01c41674$2cc12790$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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I think I joined back in 2000 if I remember correctly, or maybe it was 99. I remember discovering dream theater in late 98, so sometime shortly after that I joined the list. Can't say I remember you though, but welcome back! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: jaredemery@nordicware.com To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:11 AM
I was on this list way back in '98, and now I'm back! This list was very good to me regarding new music finds, and hard to find MP3's, so i have lots of ideas for music that people here have never heard, and I'm sure would like. IN the coming weeks and months, I'll let you guys know more.
Jared
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